Elli & Isabelle mit rotem BMW i5
Leading as a duo: Elisabeth and Isabelle share their experiences in joint leadership.

Elisabeth and Isabelle share a joint leadership position and are collectively responsible for the company's young talent programs. In this interview, the duo provide insights into their joint leadership, the management culture at the BMW Group and share their experiences. What made Elisabeth and Isabelle decide to share a management position? How do they coordinate their tasks and what advantages do they see in this management model?


Isabelle is leaning against a BMW M8
The concept of joint leadership has fascinated me right from the start. We can combine different skills and work on solutions together. I have come to appreciate working in strong tandems in various expert roles. Now being able to experience this in a management role and, for the first time, on a part-time basis gives me more freedom in my private life, both for my family and for my health as well as my long-term performance! For this I am very grateful.
Isabelle
I was already working part-time as a manager before. I see joint leadership as an opportunity to share not only the tasks, but also the joy and passion for a topic and for leadership. Isabelle and I were the first management duo in the HR department - so we also wanted to lead the way as role models for other colleagues and particularly our young talent and try out different ways of leadership.
Elisabeth
Elli is leaning against a BMW M8

HOW DO YOU DIVIDE YOUR TASKS AND RESPONSIBILITIES?

Elisabeth: “On the one hand we focus on our strengths and, on the other we set thematic priorities. There are topics that we work on together and others where we clearly split up. The important thing is that our employees and line managers always know who their contact person is."

Isabelle: “When it comes to overarching topics, we try to divide ourselves so that all employees have points of contact with both of us. That way, we stay up to date and can represent each other at any time - and our team overlaps with Elisabeth and me. Every Monday, we briefly discuss what happened last week and what's coming up this week. We also take at least an hour every week to discuss content."

Elisabeth: “The efficient exchange of information really is a key factor for our joint leadership. We can represent each other at any time and always have a complete overview.”

WHICH ADVANTAGES DO YOU SEE IN SHARING A LEADERSHIP POSITION?

Isabelle: “Of course, joint leadership has very practical advantages, for example in terms of substitution and vacation planning. In a management role, it's often not easy to really relax when going on vacation or to attend all appointments. But with Elisabeth as my tandem partner, I know that I have a colleague who is just as familiar with all aspects as I am. This gives the team and the working environment an “all-round presence” that a manager can hardly shoulder alone.”

Elisabeth: “In addition it's motivating that we learn directly from each other on a daily basis and can also develop personally in this way. Isabelle and I have different strengths that we can both benefit from.”


Elisabeth and Isabelle are sitting in the trunk of a BMW iX
We can bring the strengths of two people into a joint management responsibility. And it's great to have a sparring partner with whom you can discuss issues and develop solutions.

SURELY THERE ARE ALSO CHALLENGES?

Elisabeth: “Of course, technical or methodological issues are always challenging. In terms of content, I believe an open and critical exchange is the key to success. It's important that we find the best solution for our common goals and implement it with our team. We also get feedback on our leadership behavior. Of course, it varies from person to person, but our understanding of leadership is very similar and we try to live it that way.”

Isabelle: “Yes - and that is important so that we are fair to all employees. Naturally, sometimes - as in any partnership - there are differences in opinion. That's part of it and friction generates energy. In the end, what counts is that we deliver a good result for the team and the company. And I firmly believe that the results are better when we have discussed critical issues together beforehand.”


A shared understanding of leadership was important to us right from the start. If you are on the same wavelength, the conditions are good. A strong ability to work in a team, openness and transparency are essential for sharing a management position as well. You should also be open and transparent in your decision-making. If you prefer to make decisions independently and prioritize personal success, you may not be the right fit for a joint leadership role.
Elisabeth und Isabelle are leaning against the trunk of a BMW iX

HOW DID YOU ACTUALLY FIND EACH OTHER AS A MANAGEMENT DUO?

Isabelle: “Actually through the support of our management! When the Joint Leadership model was introduced at BMW for disciplinary managers, I was immediately interested as I was looking for ways to reduce a heavy workload while retaining responsibility. I already knew Elisabeth and could well imagine her as a partner, so I approached my boss with the idea.”

Elisabeth: “My boss at the time and I also thought it was a great idea, and we had the full support of all managers and colleagues right from the start. That showed me once again how open and trusting the management culture at BMW is.”

KEYWORD UNDERSTANDING OF LEADERSHIP: HOW DO YOU PERCEIVE THE LEADERSHIP CULTURE AT THE BMW GROUP?

Isabelle: “The BMW Group is a very future-oriented company. We want to continuously develop and face up to challenges. Attitude and leadership performance play a decisive role in this. Managers who act strategically and cooperatively within the network, who can motivate and value performance, inspire me at BMW.”

Elisabeth: “I have only ever experienced managers who show their employees a lot of trust and room for maneuver, who empower and inspire them - and that's how I try to lead myself. Managers take on a high degree of responsibility. Doing exactly the right thing in the interest of the company, using and promoting the competencies of the experts in the teams, is always the top priority.”

IRRESPECTIVE OF YOUR JOINT LEADERSHIP... WHAT DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES HAS THE BMW GROUP OFFERED YOU SO FAR?

Elisabeth:  “BMW offers you an incredible number of opportunities if you are open-minded and want to actively shape your career. Personally, assignments abroad in South Africa and the USA as well as various exciting positions at the Leipzig plant and now at headquarters have contributed to my development. Thanks to optimal conditions, I was always able to balance my professional and private life and never had to choose between the two.”

Isabelle: “I have also traveled a lot internationally, for example as an expat in the USA, and have worked on many great projects. I have not only grown professionally, but also personally and have always learned new things. I think the slogan of our talent management fits quite well: 'There are a million ways to grow!'”

Elisabeth und Isabelle are sitting on the sofa